tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post6061565905300485347..comments2024-02-26T01:37:03.845-07:00Comments on Joghard: Endocrine SystemLuchohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07992289866901355978noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-21742110224439555172009-10-09T12:26:02.444-06:002009-10-09T12:26:02.444-06:00Tim-
Couple thoughts, though off today's topic...Tim-<br />Couple thoughts, though off today's topic, for you and your readers: 1) interesting blog and book recommendation given your new ultra/trail direction: http://runlaketahoe.blogspot.com/2009/10/book-review-running-across-countries.html, seems a worthwhile read, and 2) I have been running in the Nike Lunar Racer since you recommended them early last year, they are the most form fitting shoe for my rather narrow feet that I have ever found-- absolutely love them--for rather rocky trails though I prefer a bit more traction and foot protection and it took me a while to find something comfortable, light, and narrow with a low profile snug heel....but I finally did. The LaSportiva Blade is a fantastic low profile shoe with just enough umph to make them perfectly versitle in all trail running conditions: http://www.sportiva.com/products/prod/522 I suspect anyone enjoying the Lunar Racers will similarly enjoy these shoes. They can be hard to track down and try on (as is the case with so many of the trail shoes), I found them at the Zombie Runner Store in Palo Alto. In ordering a pair they run 1/2 size smaller than the Lunar Racers. Thanks for all the good information. Good luck with the new journey! <br />CarterCarterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05378679853090748971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-73801541942295126392009-10-09T12:19:34.088-06:002009-10-09T12:19:34.088-06:00Absolutely. We still don't have TV, just a VCR...Absolutely. We still don't have TV, just a VCR and a DVD. When I do get to watch the news it's really just a downer, very little positive things reported. Once in a while though- it's fun to catch up on old Seinfeld episodes :)Luchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992289866901355978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-28126226794251668602009-10-09T12:14:01.816-06:002009-10-09T12:14:01.816-06:00I know this comment on the surface will sound a bi...I know this comment on the surface will sound a bit silly, but for the stress, really watch what you watch on TV.<br /><br />When we first moved into our house, there was no cable laid, so we just did rabbit ears TV for several months. It was the most happy I have ever been. No news pounded into me by screaching ratings seekers preaching doom and gloom, hate, economic collapses, death and destruction, wars, etc.Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02376446409534942024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-46965894949097451872009-10-09T09:22:50.028-06:002009-10-09T09:22:50.028-06:00Thanks guys! Helpful stuff, some of which I knew b...Thanks guys! Helpful stuff, some of which I knew but reaffirming never harms and just serves to drive the points home.<br /><br />I'm just getting there with trying to exclude negativity from my life, after a very laid back first 30 or so years I all of a sudden became a worry freak... don't know why? But I'm working through that!<br /><br />I always work out with a HRM and for 80-90% of the time keep out of the red. I really think that the fatigue problems have come from the 'mental' rather than teh 'physical'.<br /><br />Caffeine is also a hard one for me. I think I drink coffee out of apathy toward my work. Does that make sense? I rarely drink it at home (being a Brit it's tea :).<br /><br />As for sleep... I can't even remember the last time I woke up feeling awake and refreshed. Despite sleeping at least 7-8 hours a night constant tiredness is a battle and probably contributes to the apathy to work and the coffee drinking.<br /><br />Interesting comment about the music Lucho. I have noticed more 'angst' in my tastes recently.<br /><br />Thanks again!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-68802911100413220802009-10-09T09:06:32.342-06:002009-10-09T09:06:32.342-06:00Thanks, Lucho. I feel passionate about this topic ...Thanks, Lucho. I feel passionate about this topic as I've seen to many endurance athletes ruined by adrenal fatigue.<br /><br />My blog, yeah. Not enough to say and to much to learn... I'll probably pick up again soon.Marco Coelhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11382072006842822771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-42320354046025423562009-10-09T08:27:33.329-06:002009-10-09T08:27:33.329-06:00Marco- Hey stranger. Your blog is 'private'...Marco- Hey stranger. Your blog is 'private' so I haven't been able to follow you at all. How are you? Excellent comments for sure- thanks! I preach the "low HR" methods and follow it quite closely, this advice can't be over stated. Caffeine is one I need to work on big time- I can feel it wearing on me particularly at altitude. And this diet thing is huge. Just because you can eat anything and not get fat doesn't mean you should! <br /> Thanks Marco!Luchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992289866901355978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-43452725520291142242009-10-09T08:18:46.776-06:002009-10-09T08:18:46.776-06:00Very good comments Lucho.Very good comments Lucho.Marco Coelhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11382072006842822771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-61102005943349413202009-10-09T08:17:38.132-06:002009-10-09T08:17:38.132-06:00chr15,
As a former exercise physiologist and coac...chr15,<br /><br />As a former exercise physiologist and coach at MarkAllenOnline, I will say this... The adrenal system is your "life force". You have to be kind to it or you will pay a high price later in life. Or, perhaps you're already paying a price. The best ways to be kind to your adrenal system: <br /><br />1. Avoid caffeine - plain and simple, it's a drug with many, many side effects. Sure, it helps you perform, but you have to ask yourself what price you're willing to pay. <br /><br />2. Limit high glycemic foods to during and directly after exercise.<br /><br />3. Good sleep - "Good" being the key word here. This is the basis for everything and can't be achieved unless 1 and 2 are in order. Pay attention to your natural states of fatigue. At the first sign of fatigue at night, get to bed. Don't fight it, don't stay up surfing the web, get some rest before your adrenal system kicks in and keeps you awake for another 3-4 hours.<br /><br />4. Train within your limits - i.e. train aerobically the MAJORITY of the time. Aerobically being defined by your metabolic rate, or the rate at which you use fat vs. sugar for your source of energy.<br /><br />Lastly, I will say that you have to do all the above - all the time. It has to be your daily practice. Not just when you hit the adrenal fatigue wall.<br /><br />Hope my comments are helpful.Marco Coelhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11382072006842822771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-37953353932830553742009-10-09T08:02:12.183-06:002009-10-09T08:02:12.183-06:00C- Your story is a good one and everyone should ta...C- Your story is a good one and everyone should take note. Jay Hodde and Karl King wrote this over a decade ago, the information is nothing new, yet athletes tend to over look some of the more significant components of fatigue. I had an Ironman athlete recently tell me that her fatigue while training was quite severe. Since she wasn't training any harder or longer than usual, I asked her how her job was going. She said her company was getting ready to go public and it was a crazy time. Bingo. Our endocrine system doesn't differentiate between training stress and life stress and all things should be considered when we talk about over training. I think there is huge significance in athletics to having a 'peaceful' approach to life. If we are angry all the time at traffic or work or we have a negative outlook on life and society, then this will impact everything else. And it will manifest itself in a physical form with fatigue or poor performance. I used to think 'run with the hate' but I see now that it's counter productive. Even the music I listen to has changed. Although it is hard music, the lyrics are very rarely negative. And I think it's important to eliminate negative influences from our life, whether it be a person, a job, or even debt, get rid of it. All of these things release stress hormones that just drain our energy. <br /> Thanks for the comment. <br /> And Mark Allen is the guru on this subject!Luchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992289866901355978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-52334547918278393122009-10-09T04:15:58.147-06:002009-10-09T04:15:58.147-06:00Brilliant post. I can never read enough about endo...Brilliant post. I can never read enough about endocrine system and it's effects on our bodies, especially when discussed in conjunction with sports.<br /><br />I have been a runner for over twenty 20years. Never to your standard. But in the last 10 of those I have increased my volume up to marathon/half ironman and 200mile bike distances. I coped with these increases easily, always 'planning' my training to incorporate complete rest and easy days to prevent 'over training'.<br /><br />In the past few years pressure at work has increased significantly as has pressure in my home life with loss of parents etc.<br /><br />One point I would like to add is that the Endocrine system isn't only in use whilst we work-out or race but to varying degrees throughout the whole-day every day, and is affected (and fatigued) by mental stress just as it is physical stress.<br /><br />My body has been pretty adept at coping with 10-20hour training weeks consistantly for years. The trigger to my own 'over-training' symptoms, which were exactly as you described, was the change in my non-training related daily life and nothing to do with 'over cooking' my training.<br /><br />Diagnosed with adrenal fatigue about 8 months ago I took an ititial lay off of about 8 weeks then started training lightly, as if I was totally starting from scratch. I have now found a BALANCE (a huge word in my training vocab.) at about 6 hours a week. Homelife is back to a form of normality but the office still causes sleepless nights, I hope that will pass!<br /><br />Reading your blog and others I am inspired to up the ante again with possibly a 50mile ultra? But at the mo it's still baby steps. The fact the desire is there is a good sign that my body is returning to normal.<br /><br />The point I was trying to make was that these symptoms can too often be attributed to over training but it has to be viewed in a holistically. OK for john, your subject, the sudden increase in training over a relatively short space of time interspersed with racing and little rest likely caused the problem. But unlike John the rest of us have a life away from training, we also need to control our levels of stress in this area too.<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br /><br />PS: I read another interesting artical recently by Mark Allen (tri-legend), in Triathlete Magazine on the same subject, highlighting possible connections between weight/fat gain, raises in cholestorol levels and narrowing arteries with Endocrine System Depletion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com