tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post2393542956355283372..comments2024-02-26T01:37:03.845-07:00Comments on Joghard: MAF thoughts..Luchohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07992289866901355978noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-58740920073500770952008-03-07T10:10:00.000-07:002008-03-07T10:10:00.000-07:00Lucho, I've been wondering about a lab test for a ...Lucho, <BR/>I've been wondering about a lab test for a while. Then I met MAF. Your discussion of an LT lab test gets me wondering again. If I can manage the expense, is it worth it? Or does it complicate a simple objective: getting aerobically fit.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06680473738547005786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-85654973088767195532008-03-07T10:00:00.000-07:002008-03-07T10:00:00.000-07:00ok... now a couple more questions! The way you ha...ok... now a couple more questions! The way you have explained the benefits of MAF-based training makes sense (especially in what your wrote to GZ). Here's my question: for a triathlete, say early in your season (base phases) you commit to at least 8 weeks to MAF-based training on the run. How slow (low HR) should you be going on the bike during this phase?<BR/><BR/>last one... i promise. During this 8 weeks of MAF training would it be totally against the methodology to still do runs in the hills where it is pretty much impossible to keep the HR down with the varied terrain? I am not talking about pegging it up the hills but keeping it nice and easy to build strength... or would you wait unitl after the MAF phase to start these? Thanks for the time Lucho!jamesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00419821590943633493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-71247928712204263082008-03-06T21:32:00.000-07:002008-03-06T21:32:00.000-07:00Jameson- I would certainly recommend using lab te...Jameson- <BR/> I would certainly recommend using lab tests to determine LT and AeT (2.0 mmol). Then the deciphering from that point gets tricky depending on the methods you want to use and the race distance you're training for.. but, to simplify it I would use Friels zones based on lactate. Remember that Friel uses lactate threshold and MAF is age based and is a conservative estimate of HR so they can be very different. My LT is ~176-180.. so my Friel Zone 2 is a lot higher than MAF.Luchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992289866901355978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-66690405394902179192008-03-06T20:48:00.000-07:002008-03-06T20:48:00.000-07:00quick question about the MAF training... is using ...quick question about the MAF training... is using the formula "180 - age" more effecient than using zones (say friel's) based on a lab or field test. and if you were going to use the HR zones based on testing what zone would that be? I am assuming zone 2? <BR/><BR/>Thanks for putting all this out there for consumption... it really great stuff... especially the debating and point/counterpointing!jamesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00419821590943633493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-13791196213954819212008-03-06T18:11:00.000-07:002008-03-06T18:11:00.000-07:00Brett- think of it in terms of pushing yourself to...Brett- think of it in terms of pushing yourself to the point of adaptation. The more the better in terms of mileage. If you feel good then don't stop.. or run again. Stick with the low HR stuff at least for 6 weeks and really get that efficiency developed.. I would recommend pushing that to ~12 weeks though.. then start doing the sub-LT work (Tempo) for 3-4 weeks.. then spend the next 7 weeks running as much as possible at goal HR.. never higher though. With the hills- or lack there of- try the stairmaster. It sounds funny- but go to the gym and step for 45:00 and THEN tell me how funny it is.. after you've limped home. ;) <BR/> Word.Luchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992289866901355978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5857054182085881319.post-39038012393439811072008-03-06T16:00:00.000-07:002008-03-06T16:00:00.000-07:00Hi Tim:I am coming to via GZ via the Pikes Peak me...Hi Tim:<BR/><BR/>I am coming to via GZ via the Pikes Peak message board. I live on the east coast at sea level where our largest hills are ant hills.<BR/><BR/>My brother talked me into running the Ascent in 2005 and I've done it twice now, falling in love.<BR/><BR/>I have a question on this topic - my target heart rate in this program would be 145 (180 - 35 yrs old)...so do I just run whatever my mileage plan dictates or are there certain volumes of running you need to do?<BR/><BR/>Thanks in advance, very interesting topic.Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02376446409534942024noreply@blogger.com